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    Looking to buy.

    Looking to buy smart roadster.
    Hi all. I have joined up And used sight before but very new to this forum. I am looking to buy a smart roadster or coupe and am after some information.
    What to look out for on the models I am after, good and bad points. Heard they can leak a bit, is this true? Do they really get 50 to 70 mpg?
    It is going to be my main car for traveling to work and back, could be a 120 mile round trip. Are they comfy enough for this?
    What sort of service history miles should they have?
    Budget is about 3500. Will I get a nice one for this money?
    Sorry for the questions, but sure you have had them all before and sure there will be more.
    Hope I'm in the right place now for some replies.
    Thanks.

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    At that budget I'd consider something else TBH. The Roadie will do it, in the same way you can live in a tent. Possible, not pleasant. At that money you're getting one that's past its best to begin with.

    I used to do 130 per day in my Brabus xClusive Coupe (which at that time I bought it was virtually new), so unlike most who'll tell you to do it, I have experience of what I'm talking about. The noise and lack of torque start to drive you insane... The 7k servicing isn't most cost effective either. I averaged 51.4mpg over the 30k miles I monitored it for, but I'm a far more economical driver than most (awareness, not speed make that difference), but this is about 10mpg less than the far more powerful, practical, better-handling diesel it replaced.

    Look for a job nearer to where you live, then buy one!

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    If only it was that easy to get a job closer. I work away from home so do the trip on Sunday night to work, then Friday back home but have a baby due in April so want to go home midweek for a night with the family. Always wanted one, maybe I could go for a test drive or get a go in the passenger seat of one to see for myself.
    So the ones I see selling for 2500 to 3500? Are you saying not a good buy then?

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    Some people have got 70mpg, but about 50mpg would be a good estimate and is probably closer to what you'll achieve.

    They can leak (like most convertibles), but there's a lot of guides on how to stop them.

    I wouldn't worry about total miles, but I would check they've been serviced regularly. Also bear in mind they need the more expensive fuel, however they actually work out cheaper to run on this as you get more miles per tank.

    Take a test drive if you can to see what they're about and to judge the comfort levels for yourself. You've got a decent budget there though and they also seem to be holding their values well due to the low running costs and low tax band. Also if you do decide to buy one, it's best to get one in Winter as all convertibles are more expensive when the sun comes out.
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    Don't listen to Steve - he's about the only ex-Roadster owner I've ever found who wouldn't want another.

    Yes they do leak - but most leaks can be fixed.
    Yes they handle the mileage - I do 18,000 a year in mine and it's fine. Bear in mind they're small and fairly noisy - have a drive and see what you think - they're not for everyone (as Steve is testament) but most fall in love within minutes of starting the engine.

    Servicing is every 7000 miles and they are A/B/A/"C"/A/B/A/"C".
    I now do all A services myself and it costs me about 20 in parts. B & C services I leave to a specialist as it involves removal of the rear panels, but they come in about 200-250. If you don't want to do an "A" yourself, a specialist will charge about 100.

    3500-4000 should buy you a decent one. I'd be wary of anything sub 3k and walk away from any where there is a hint of any electrical gremlins.

    Visit http://www.roadstermodelguide.co.uk/...ers_Guide.html and www.theroadster.net for everything you need to look for when buying a car.

    Also given your location, I'd suggest giving fudge a call (www.fudgesmart.co.uk). They're a trusted smart specialist near Newmarket and they often have Roadster's for sale. If you buy from them you can be sure you are buying one that's been properly checked over.
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    Thanks for all the great info there guys. Service stuff and v power fuel does not really bother me at all. I run a impreza at the moment and service is every 4000 miles along with v power fuel and 20 to 25 mpg, if I'm lucky!
    I'll look up this fudge fella and hoping to look at a few this weekend and at least drive one and I really can't wait. Wanted one for what seems like ages. I'm sure there will be a lot more bone questions so thanks again for your input

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    Could someone please give me sheafs up to the model numbers, 451? 452? ect.
    Thanks.

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    452 is a smart roadster.

    450 is the old shape fortwo
    451 is the current shape fortwo
    454 is the Forfour
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    Something else you might be interested in is a remap as the gains are very high.

    There have been 80hp Roadsters that have been mapped and got 127bhp on a dyno, although the norm tends to be about 110-120bhp
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    Thank you and a remap sounds like it could be a lot of fun, but really buying for a bit of fun and fuel economy. What sort of difference to mpg does the extra horses make?
    Think I might go for that, can't be as bad as my 325 bhp scooby at average 22 mpg.

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