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    Power steering

    Does anyone know if it's possible to fit a power steering rack to a 04 Cabriolet 450 Pure, and if so is there any other hardware needed for it to work?

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    Rack, column and control box and coding.

    Kate

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    Oh and a bill for something approaching the value of the car. IIRC the rack is 850, control box nigh on 400, column 150 ish.
    Tony

    Living life with Pure Passion, always with my finger on the Pulse

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    Thanks for the quick replies! If I carry on with this I won't be buying new then. Looks like more thought and possibly a scrap yard.

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    Good luck finding that lot on a scrapyard - there were very very few 450's with PAS.
    It'll probably be cheaper & easier to simply buy another smart with this already fitted.
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    Thanks for your replies. Is the difference in steering column's that the power one has a wheel position sensor, and if so could I buy the sensor and fit it? Also is the wiring for this extra kit in place?

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    No, the wheel position sensor is in the steering wheel. As has been mentioned, 450's with PAS are as rare as hens teeth as they offered little advantage to justify the extra cost.

    Cheers!

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    I will say - having had 2 fortwo's without PAS, and 1 with PAS, that PAS is certainly worth having - especially if (like my other half) you have a back injury.

    Though the standard steering isn't heavy by today's standards, it's noticeably lighter at low speeds with the PAS system, without impacting on feel at higher speeds. The only issues I have with it (and I have heard others complain of the same) is 1) the motor continually sounds noisy & graunchy as if it is about to lunch itself (but apparently this is fairly usual for them) and 2) the self-centring after turning a corner isn't the same - it doesn't spin back so freely.

    But really, retro-fitting isn't really an option - why not just look for a car with it on - then sell yours?
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    The PAS column is shorter to allow for the motor.
    Kate

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    Quote Originally Posted by lil.smartie View Post
    Rack, column and control box and coding.
    Coding! Really? Not come across that before.

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