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    Steepest hill for setting off on

    If I am two up in my car it will only just set off up my drive. On my mum's drive, if I stop, even driver only it will not set off again.

    Are there any official figures for steepest incline for actually starting either forward or reverse?

    2009 CDI with DPF.

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    What is your worst gradient?

    Not sure if forward or reverse would be any better.

    I have managed to get up the Porlock hill on holiday in same car (Cdi with DPF), though that was not from a standing start.

    Have a feeling that if I had stopped, I would have had to reverse back down

    "The route climbs west of Porlock to the north fringes of Exmoor. It climbs 725 feet (221 m) in just under 1 mile (1.6 km), the steepest gradient on any A-road in the UK. At one point, there is a warning sign advising motorists of a gradient of 1 in 4 (25%)".

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    Just measured it. Neighbours are now quite convinced that I am nuts instead of just thinking it.

    It is 17 degrees or about 1:6. I have no problem driving up and down it but setting off with two people in is a "just made it" situation.

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    Well you answer is, you drive it out of the slope, then let the passenger in

    I had a similar problem with a previous house, as the drive was so narrow for parking, I had to let the passengers out of the car before parking, or they would not get out of the doors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colin2x2 View Post
    Well you answer is, you drive it out of the slope, then let the passenger in

    I had a similar problem with a previous house, as the drive was so narrow for parking, I had to let the passengers out of the car before parking, or they would not get out of the doors.
    Yup, solutions to the problem are easy enough but it does result in lots of whinging as it is a good 45 metres from where the car parks to the street and it is steep. Wife can't do it walking, bad heart and knackered lungs. Like I say it isn't a problem unless I stop which does happen owing to my suicidal cat and next doors yappy little mutt.

    It is just that I think the car does not have the power that it should have at low revs. Since I got the car I have fixed plumbing and wiring, it was seriously wrong when I got it and each fix has made it better. I now have turbo from about 1600 RPM but clutch drops at about 1300 rpm, those next few hundred revs are a struggle. I can'rt see that the turbo could possibly work under 1500 or so, there is just not enough exhaust to power it so I am at a loss, I know no way of making the clutch engage higher up the rev range. It is also a general feeling of not picking its toes up out of a junction, particularly turning uphill.

    Really looking for anything that I can do to generally improve it.

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    I think the problem is they never made them the way they used to.

    Mine has no problem with steep gradients as long as there is grip. Did several standing starts on steepest sections of Hardknott Pass going west. My 450 was fully loaded, wife, camping gear, bikes, boat and trailer.

    Hardknott Pass west side looking east. East side is much steeper than this side 30% gradient I think.
    Drives a Smart Cdi - 65 to 85 MPG

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    Somewhere I have a photo of my equipage next to these signs:
    Drives a Smart Cdi - 65 to 85 MPG

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    I have travelled that road some number of times in/on every possible vehicle including feet. Once on the way to Scotland I spent the night right on the top in my camper van. By 5 am it was like Clapham Junction, walkers, school kids runners, motor bikes and push bikes the lot. Fired up the stove and make bacon butties. People were most disappointed to learn that I wasn't a mobile cafe.

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    Arrgh! bad memories, as I had brake fade going down that Hardnott pass in my Escort XR3i back in the 80's, and have never driven it since. The brakes were just awful, even from new.

    When going into the Lake District now from Scotland, I head for Keswick then go to Ambleside to get to Windermere, even though the Hardnott pass cuts miles off the journey (assuming you make it alive, that is ).

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    The guy I bought my car off must have had trouble getting the car off his drive that was steep! he blamed the brakes stuck on because it was standing, it was always on the road when I came to view it, maybe he was sick of waiting for his neighbors to get up so he could go to work.
    At least there's not many hills in South Wales huh!
    Smart should team up with the mobile phone shops to see if you are able to use your car where you live.

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