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    Question Best way to put the Front on Axle Stands

    Most of the work I've done has been at the back end - the front is really a mystery to me

    If I'm going to use the front jacking points for axles stands, where do I lift the car?

    Or is there another solution I don't know about?

    Thanks again
    Paul
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    Remove plastic under floor protection.
    With Lidl trolley jack and suitable pieces of wood, lift front on front axle cross member. Place axle stands under front jack points. Use soft packers to protect paintwork.
    I made a special wooden contraption that fits front axle crossmember perfectly. Might post photo tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tolsen View Post
    I made a special wooden contraption that fits front axle crossmember perfectly. Might post photo tomorrow.
    Many thanks - that would be great!
    Paul
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    Quote Originally Posted by tolsen View Post
    Remove plastic under floor protection.
    Good luck doing that without a ramp or maybe a hacksaw if you are not going to put it back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolinor View Post
    Good luck doing that without a ramp or maybe a hacksaw if you are not going to put it back.
    I was wondering...

    I think what I've done previously is lift at the jack points and put axle stands under the wishbones while working to remove the undertray

    It all feels a bit clunky though
    Paul
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    My special wooden contraption for lifting front of a Smart 450. The grooves cut in the wood locate onto the inverted channel transverse front axle.

    Made from an old rotten garden fence post. Held together with nails and treated timber. Head of jack locates into a square well at bottom of contraption so cannot slide off. Head of above Sealey jack is to large in diameter. My contraption was originally made for a wee cheap Lidl trolley jack which regrettably went kaput.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UKKid35 View Post

    I think what I've done previously is lift at the jack points and put axle stands under the wishbones while working to remove the undertray
    Or jack under the wishbones then place axle stands under jacking points - just be (very) careful of the jack slipping on the wishbones.
    Axle stands though will impinge on front undertray lowering - do you really want/need to drop the tray?

    I prefer though to jack at the rear of the sill to place axle stands under front jacking points. It is a PITA raising and placing a 450 on axle stands.

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    Invest in or make a pair of good ramps. You will need those to drop the plastic under floor protecton. You may find you also need to raise rear end as well to get plastic under floor out. With front end on ramps I lock suitable pieces of timber into the treads of the ramps to prevent the car rolling off, then lift rear with trolley jack under bellhousing. Support rear end on axle stands placed under deDion rear axle or under rear jack points.
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    Here is photo of my 450 lifted high in the air:



    Front axle is supported by spare paving blocks. Note for safety I have placed wheels at each side under sills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinger View Post

    I prefer though to jack at the rear of the sill to place axle stands under front jacking points. It is a PITA raising and placing a 450 on axle stands.
    Great advice, many thanks
    Paul
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