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Thread: 450 fog lights - replacement with LED's and halo's

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    450 fog lights - replacement with LED's and halo's

    I know all of us know how bad the OEM fog lights were are still are on our cars, and that there are some LED swaps out there, but has anybody on here done a simple swap with a cheap set from ebay?

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-x-7000K...53.m1438.l2649

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fits-Smar...53.m1438.l2649


    A simple search bring sup loads of alternative options, all 12v. So, whom amongst us has already taken the plunge and bought and fitted a set?
    Did they work or do they cause more problems than they are worth with a 14 year old electrical system??

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    They are only IP65 so won't last long before they fail due to water ingress.
    Drives a Smart Cdi - 65 to 85 MPG

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    Seriously how often do you actually use front fog lamps?
    In 12 years & 200,000+ miles of owning my smart I think there have only been 2 instances when the visibility has reduced to below 100m to actually require the use of them.
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    I would rather fit led bulbs if led bulbs sufficiently powerful were available. Do not even dare turning on the front fogs due to risk of melting the lamps. Very poor design indeed. Perhaps I should complain to Smart?
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    I have tried LED bulbs in the foglamps on my Roadster which I have now wired up to operate as DRLs. Unfortunately though the LEDs look really bright outside the lamp, as soon as they're fitted inside the housing the directional nature of the light means it does not reflect or spread correctly when viewed through the lens.
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    If you can find them, search for Michalak / S-mann fog lights .
    They are using Hella light units with H1 bulbs .
    Better quality than stock/OEM
    You can rebuild housing , by fitting other light units in the housing

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    Why replace Hella with Hella?
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    because there are different types of Hella units , which arent so bad as stock/hella units in the 450

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